The real question is if he’ll die without having absorbed all the skills

more like "Skeleton Soldier Couldn't Protect the Plot"

funny to see people say skelly it's stupid because he took a armor so "some guy" can snitch him to the killer knight, cause "shiny royal armor betray him", or "waattt ??? a royal commander here ??? wat the fuccckkk ???" when he never encounter somebody.

the only thing who give his positions is the gps, not a person.

what a dumbo

SKELETON SOLDIER!!!!!

@nfzeta
I feel that we are going a bit out of scope here and the answers are growing a bit too much, but the others seem they are enjoying the film as they are not interrupting it. Moreover it would be impolite to not answer such a lengthy message as it should have taken a bit to just write it.


You're actually right, I didn't notice. What I meant in the first was that he was under his control as the dog behaved as it did before the troll it's more "loyal" than "control" (as that's what "control" looks like to be) I was trying to answer the phrase of your first paragraph... ... while I was assuming the dog was under his control before. But there you were talking about how I shouldn't assume that the dog should have done anything but what he did in the manga and about that I answered that I said that because I misunderstood you, so the point would be if the dog actually changed behavior or not. Thus if that possibility is actually there and if it's up to interpretation the reason why the dog barked at him (hostility or warning). I was just trying to argue why I misunderstood what you said, let's ignore this matter as it's not the point and those messages are already lengthy and was clearly my fault for talking about not relevant stuffs.

On the other hand in the third I meant that it wasn't actual "control" for the same reason MC said the same thing in the prev. ch. So I can't say what the author meant with that word and didn't do an external assumption on that. The point of your prev. message was that I was making an assumption while I answered saying that I used the same basic stuffs MC was shown to use before and MC should have been able to realize that if you have 10 and use 10 you are left with 0, independently of what we are speaking about. MC caught a bit of dementia, let's hope he'll recover quickly. [Idiot Ball on TV Tropes]


That's exactly why I said that it was bad writing. It seemed that was like that just to hype Gil up as MC is usually able to understand how resources work, so I can't see why he wasn't there. It may have been a coincidence, but I've read enough manga and enough of such "coincidences" that it seem a bit too forced to me. But considering how easy it would have been to make that deed better (trying to check how much it was for a troll) than I guess it was intentional. I still consider it to be pretty stupid on MC's part though.


Yeah, but that's not a reason to make to MC more stupid. I've seen it done in many mangas and I know it can be hard to avoid doing that, but it's still bad writing.


Oh, no, I didn't mean IRL neither. I meant hypothetically speaking, I don't like criticizing manga without trying to think of something better and discovering that my plan is not that good was useful and interesting. Still reading the start of a reply with "That's how you'd die." throw me off a bit.


I didn't think of that. More than reader knowledge and meta knowledge I was using stupidity. I still think that doing experiments on unknown things is better done in a calmer time and thus hide it. About MC not being sure of that, the author could say something better than "I swear this armor emitted light right now. Perhaps it was just my imagination" I don't know if this is the translation, but the second phrase doesn't follow the first one. You swear if you are sure, not if you don't know, maybe, kinda. If you make him say that he is sure and afterward he ignores it anyway it really seems the story is being railroaded.


Not sure I'd do that if I were you. It's better to be alive without an armor than killed because that's the only way to steal it. It's like you are forcing the opponent to kill you even if they had no reason to do so. But that would greatly depend on what the alternatives are, the social situation, your abilities and what would happen to them if they additionally kill you. For example instead of sneaking in your camp while you are camping outside for work, they'd need to additionally need to poison you and take it. I'm not so sure that killing the you underhandedly would make it that much harder than just stealing it.


I didn't thought of that, but my point still holds. It's not so that I could take the armor back, but as a deterrent to lower the gain of a thief by making the object worth a way less. In this way they wouldn't try to begin with and I'd also get my revenge if they are not good enough to deactivate the eventual curse or whatever I placed there.


Mmh... you're right. I was trying to find a solution about keeping that or an other armor somehow, but I guess my original plan of leaving it there was actually better. About getting info I thought about more general stuffs like which protections against robbery/steal are usually used (to eventually protect myself), some kind of apprisal, how to know that someone is not trying to sell me a cursed item or what to do if I found something in a dungeon. That may not find that romantic lover finder, but would be a better start to check the usual things rather than nothing. I'm not taking about knowing everything, but at least check something before taking a treasure, not blindly like that.


I don't know, it depend on how much she was around for, if there are old soldiers scattered around who knew her, if she appeared a lot in public with her armor and if she traveled in small villages when going on mission. One person is enough when the voice that she died is spread. On the other hand with a knight armor you just have to invent a realistic story and search for an other armor in the meanwhile. There are even cases of knights going out alone, like the dude that is about to kill MC. In case of real knights you'd have trouble either armor you pick.

@ShinobuOshino
That could have easily been the dog just acting like a dog after that. The fact the dog had barked at him before even realising there was an intruder also served to throw him off.


He wasn't 'sure' he just believed he was relatively safe. Its even in how it was worded.


Contradicting your first paragraph here. Also he believed he was out of 'control' only after trying to raise the troll, and that idea was enforced by the dog barking at him. That was as far as the whole ruminations about the 'control' stat went.
He was also shown to be learning a lot of those things, and implied to have learned others. This whole arc was basically him not knowing what was going on, this isn't a deviation from the norm in any way. It was just another way to show the opening of the world and the powerful people out there and therefore how much a frog in a well the MC still is.


I wasn't limiting it to just him either, the point was instead that if anyone could follow him like that, he has nothing in the way of abilities to prevent it and therefore worrying about it would be mute, especially since it seems anyone with that level of power can easily kill him. He took what he considered to be appropriate precautions by distancing himself and aiming for a deserted area to lay low in.


It wasn't really meant like that, we don't deal with those types of stuff so at most its something you'd only apply in games.

In that case then he would be better off forgetting the armour altogether and just looking for some poor guy to rob, the cost benefit is only worth it if you take the strong one, at least the cost/benefit he was aware of, as he didn't know about the GPS. As said, they were all royal knights so its even easier to be identified when wearing standard royal knight armour than a unique armour, has a lot less 'brand recognition' that way. Hiding the armour as you suggest is also a fairly weak option as if you're not going to use it in any foreseeable future then its better to leave it, as then there would be less of a trace that someone survived. If you're being cautious enough to try to figure out 'everything' about an armour before using it then its better to just not covet such things in the first place, because you'll never know everything, and trying to know anything would be a great risk in and of itself. You can't exactly go around asking about a one of a kind armour or any armour of that calibre without raising eyebrows.


That's not what the MC did at all. He may have not went full paranoid mode but that's what happens when you can't even be sure something happened in the first place. The only reason he was sure in the shed was because it was in a closed room where it stood out. Light from an armour, especially when just seen out of the corner of your vision could be so many things, from something as simple as reflection. Heck, he couldn't even be sure that the armour was what shone and it wasn't just he himself.


First, he didn't know that it only lit up afterward, that's another reader thing. It could also mean a plethora of other things, it could even be a warning system for its wearer, so you can't really limit possibilities on an armour that special, and that's assuming he was sure about the light. You're using reader knowledge and meta knowledge to assume and limit possibilities but then berating the MC for using his knowledge to narrow down possibilities or even keeping them open.


The among many others part is what you seemed to be ignoring before. Also that isn't a reliable assumption of what people do, at least not to this extent you're assuming, the first thing is identifying what makes it a treasure in the first place, and when its a armour the first thing after identifying its use is to actually try it out. Its only when its usefulness is confirmed as treasure worthy that people think about the ways to keep it for themselves. However things like a GPS tracker on an armour isn't usually within the methods jumped too, because its something you keep on your person and therefore if someone can get it you're usually already dead. If anything a more useful choice would be just to find a way to bound the item to yourself, where you'd need to be killed for someone else to take and use it.

@nfzeta
Sorry, I misunderstood you and thought that you said that the dog was trying to warn him about the intruder and did it wrong, so it wasn't MC's fault, but now I understand that you didn't. Nonetheless the fact that the dog was under his control is supported by many things. It's true that MC couldn't have known most of them, but that's not the point here. For example how the cub reacted after the opening of the door, how he went toward the intruder, how the panel about lost connection was showed after it died and not after the troll or what I'll write in the third paragraph (as it's related to your third paragraph).

I meant that MC was *sure* that no one could follow him, but for the rest you are right.

Well, I've no idea what control is because the dog has never been under his control, but I thought that it's a basic thing to know how a resource, of any kind, works. He had 10 and used 10 he remains with 0, he was already without of control all the time. Or maybe he doesn't know how to do subtractions. I mean he was never shown to understand what the numbers on the status were, why they decrease if the person takes an hit, understand what's a counter or how to handle money, right? On the other hand if what he tried to understand was how much control was needed for a troll or if the control regenerated and how fast, no complain. The same if it happened last ch after he took control of the cub, but when it's put there it looks like it only happened so that the author could hype Gil up, but you're right it's my assumption, but I still wouldn't put an hype after showing how many thing MC still has to learn mentally.

I didn't mean that the one of the spatial rift was following, he probably has no reason to do so after he let MC go. What I meant is that if something OP like creating a spatial rift is possible, it's not that big to assume that someone has the ability to check the surrounding space, but you'd be right to say that that's meta-knowledge. "thinking someone is always able to and will get you" he just killed the emperor (his party did). If it doesn't happens now, when?

"That's how you'd die." I told you "I'm not that intelligent", so yeah, I can see that happening. It's still not nice of you to say that, but thank you for warning me. What I actually meant, though, was that I'd learn about that stuffs even before going in any dungeon or have an adventure, you may find killed adventures with their equipment or, maybe, treasures or cursed traps. And not taking her armor doesn't means he can't take the trashiest one out there as that's less risky and should still be a good armor. Or hide her armor somewhere and then go to a populated town to blend in and learn more about that stuffs.

You are right that it can mean a lot of reasons, but it's not normal. About not being sure, it's stupid when one is not sure to assume the thing that they want to happen the most, and that's what MC did. Many people actually do that, but this doesn't change anything. Mine was obviously an assumption as that was an argument about why *I* would really not bring it along, particularly after that light. What I meant with unusable is that going around with an armor you stole that started blinking only afterward *can* mean that that's what stolen treasures do. If this is known than he can only meet outlaws with that armor. Obviously he can hide it and search for a way to change that, but it'd be suspicious. But I repeat that this was I would have considered a reasonable possibility (among many others). That's because if one has a treasure the first thing they usually do is make sure nobody can't steal it or that is unusable when stolen.

@ShinobuOshino
(d) Already off to a bad start with that. You're assuming you're right with something that has little evidence and trying to overwrite the author's story with it. The dog barked at him, possibly because after trying to raise the troll he ran out of control and therefore the dog was no longer under his control. The dog was clearly barking at him and was meant to be barking at him. Whether that was to warn him or just show aggression at him is up to interpretation but don't say the dog should have been barking at the door.
He also ran for days at top speed using a skill, it was realistically unlikely for him to be followed.

(b) "what's the point of taking an armor if you are sure that you'll meet no one?" Really? Are you seriously asking that? He had no defences and while he wasn't intending to meet anyone leaving such a powerful armour behind is objectively the more foolish choice. He'd deal with hiding it if he really wanted to move to populated areas, doesn't mean he should leave himself defenceless.

"Nontheless the initial and trashy thing to hype her by showing how stupid he is when he tries to control something knowing to have exhausted all control is beyond bad writing"
Again, you're making bad assumptions because of knowledge that was never confirmed. In fact its heavily hinted that he didn't know what 'control' was and how to check it before trying to resurrect the troll. Its happened many times before, he's literally learning the system as he goes and necromancy was a new addition.

"And thinking that no one has a magic to see people around or to follow traces and thus being sure that no one, not even the one that created a spatial rift, will be able to follow him is pretty stupid."
He took what precautions he could and thinking someone is always able to and will get you is also a stupid way to go about living. If the creature that created the spatial rift is after him for example, he's dead, no point in worrying about it, because that could possibly just follow him anywhere, regardless of what he thinks or tries. Its not like he meant to fully set up shop in that shack, it was just an area to pause after believing he gave himself enough distance between the battle and himself. Even if he continued to run the knight would still catch up to him because his 'dash' ability ran out.

"if I was idekai'd in a world with magic and found an overpowered item and I had no way to do a full check on it, I wouldn't use it. It may be cursed in case anyone but his owner tries to wear it."
That's how you'd die. You can never be totally sure of anything in a world where you don't know the rules but if you let that stop you then you get nowhere and eventually still run up against a situation where your life is in danger and then you'd wish you took the smaller risks from before to prepare yourself.

"The light that it emits from time to time should be an obvious signal of that, it doesn't matter if it's a GPS, a curse or just a light to show that it was stolen, it makes the armor unusable except for the time he is sure he won't meet anyone. the danger is way above the gains."
Again, another assumption only in hindsight. A light emitting on a magical armour can be for A LOT of reasons and it only shone once and he wasn't even sure about it. If it was a light that showed it was unusable he would have known because earlier in this very story he came across things like that already. The armour is also pretty much always usable unless he has a non-combatant mission to do. After all as long as he's careful anyone he meets would be someone he could kill if they recognise it, a unique armour of a royal knight not many would see, also after he finished absorbing all of those abilities from that fight few people would qualify as people he can't kill if exposed, so there would be no reason to leave armour that good.

@nfzeta @CinderKin

(d) If the dog was barking at him when a dog barks at the door, than that is yet an other error of the author as the dog is depicted to behave as if it was alive. Moreover he should remember that the dog found a corpse when he didn't even notice. That time the dog barked and he followed, he didn't think that it was just a stupid dog (that is actually more intelligent than him). Apparently the dog still has the sense of smell to find the corpse and probably the other senses too. If he uses other means to detect things rather than magic, than there is the possibility that MC's skill may fail when the dog won't. particularly because magic to block magic is usually not that uncommon. He was full of himself when he just mentioned that he was extremely weak.

(b) what's the point of taking an armor if you are sure that you'll meet no one? And does he plan to throw the armor away when he stop hiding? It's not like they'll stop searching for that armor any time soon. heck even after years people keep on remembering an iconic armor or searching for the killer of the previews king.

I'm not saying this manga is trash or similar things. the fact that the knight followed immediately because he saw the necromancer corpse and thought that the attacking force was weak may make sense (but I personally doubt that that was the reason), and same can be said for the encounter between the MC and her or how he tries to stay alive as much as possible. Nontheless the initial and trashy thing to hype her by showing how stupid he is when he tries to control something knowing to have exhausted all control is beyond bad writing. And thinking that no one has a magic to see people around or to follow traces and thus being sure that no one, not even the one that created a spatial rift, will be able to follow him is pretty stupid.

@LadyLyn You said no one. I'm not that intelligent, but if I was idekai'd in a world with magic and found an overpowered item and I had no way to do a full check on it, I wouldn't use it. It may be cursed in case anyone but his owner tries to wear it. The light that it emits from time to time should be an obvious signal of that, it doesn't matter if it's a GPS, a curse or just a light to show that it was stolen, it makes the armor unusable except for the time he is sure he won't meet anyone. the danger is way above the gains.

@unk0damnation or just drop it, like I will.

Wow, people, calm down. MC the skelly is dumb and we all know it. He got no brain after all, give him a break and let him do dumb things.

some ppl in the comments -> manga is going downhill, author is dumb, mc is dumb, reasoning ? things a normal person would do in those situations, about the armor ? its his first legendary drop on a game setting world, who the f%$% dosent pick up a free legendary item, absorption power, its a reasonable and balanced power, he dosent get anything out of gate and has to learn it/use it, not giving shyte about the dog, dog barked first to show him the book and the troll, so he was looking at those, and also didnt think anyone worth a damn would show up in a remote place, let alone someone who could wipe him, what if he followed the dog ? he would die anyways, now for the second and first dumbest thing ive seen so far, ''where did that necromancy showed up'''' thats plot convenience'', necromancer was foreshadowed on the earliest chapters as well as the blue armor guy who was searching for her, the reason why skeleton mc died once as well, now that he got out like he should he found her as a event that is suppose to happen, keep in mind, this is a game there is a correct path to follow, and the first dumbest thing, WhY Is hE nOt DyInG 4hEad, well that should be self explanatory, he dosent know how many lifes he has, and no one plays a game to lose, that should be basic knowledge FacePalms.

What's the matter with people? The wolf pup was all ready long dead, he just brought it back and depending on how the magic works in this world if he lives through the attack he could just raise it again.

And if he get's killed he can just go back and find it again and raise it.

The knight was clearly very close to the female knight, so he's out for vengeance an undead puppy isn't going to get mercy against that.

a) The armor was the first legendary drop skelly got. As someone said before.

b) skelly was going into the forest, lookin for an abandoned place so he could stay, hence no one would really suspect of him being on that armor too much (even IF he finds someone). I mean he is in the middle of nowhere, in a time where there is no fkin internet, odds are most of ppl wouldn't even recognize that armor or if someone does, they wouldn't bother him too much.

c) that track GPS is just too op, that girl life was basicaly big brother lel

d) Would you fkin expect a weak lv 0 dog to have better stealth detection than you? Even after absoving a shit ton of skills?

that knight killed a puppy... he is indeed a bad guy

@GerryCerryBery
Wasn't explained yet. We've only seen it dropping at some key points of his misadventures.

I can't remember, was the assimilation rate dropping a good or a bad thing?

@nfzeta You can also add the fact that as a undead abomination he might be quite unfamiliar with dog behaviour.

@retnemmoc He was just checking the control mechanic and the dog was barking at him, not at the door, as would be normal for a dog warning someone. Then you have him usually being able to detect people which would make him not consider someone being there if he can't sense them.
He acted reasonably given his situation, you just have too much information as the reader.