Dekisokonai no Monster Trainer

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Vol. 4 Ch. 18 - Dragon-Killing Dragon
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Wh... this was still alive ?
I don't want to sound rude towards the efforts you guys provide but honestly... this series keeps on pilling bullshit upon bullshit, the whole series makes no sense, has no rhythm and... who cares about her ? At best I'm barely interested in the Slime trainer at this point but we get nothing about him, the MC seems to be this girl that's as dumb as a sock and yet she's arrogant about it. Please, give me an axe to end it all ?
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Is that dragon trainer girl really the female lead? Screaming nonsense almost every time, mouthing off crest that seems weaker than her dragon, then whimpers when faced against stronger opponents. Rather than female lead, she's more suitable as typical mob villain.
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@GodGinrai My comments began with me putting it into the context of OUR world and then using that to allow the idea that it may work in a similar manner in this world. This would explain her arrogance.

This tiny dragon still fits when you take into account that it will be stronger than it is now when its larger. This situation is much like the comparison of a Monkey to a human. Both fall under similar titles but a smaller Monkey has massively more strength than a larger human. There is still the generalization that things are generally stronger when larger. If the monkey was larger it would be stronger, within certain physical limits of course. Her assumption that this small dragon and its tiny breath would be beaten make sense if she does not understand there is such an unusual difference. Humans are after all unusually weak physically. If you compare apes and such the bigger one is likely stronger.

This is not comparing apples and oranges. This is in the context of Apples and other types of hard fruit like an apple. Pears perhaps.

This was my point or atleast my attempt to get you to understand my initial point. If she was facing a spirit she would likely assume different scaling than a slime but it may still hold true that a larger spirit is stronger. With large enough differences in size the advantages of unusually strong creatures also get out done. Thats why a Gorilla is only strong within a relative weight class. You increase a creatures size enough and it will be stronger. Even poisons will lose effect on larger animals because they are too large, even if there are poisons so potent that nothing is large enough this does not change. At that point you just start talking about doses of poison which is making the poison larger or smaller to increase or decrease its lethality.

Once again it does not matter if this particular creature is unusually strong or has special weapons. My point was not that it should be weaker because its smaller. My point was that her assumptions on strength to size ratio's made a certain amount of sense.
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@Merilirem Your comments have been hinging on the fact that larger things are stronger, which you have been defining specifically to mean physically. I realize you never said "all larger beings are physically stronger than smaller beings". However, if this thing is more powerful due to anything other than physical strength, it doesn't fit your biased definition of "stronger".
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@GodGinrai Ok that makes me certain you have no idea what im talking about. I am expecting as much, my comments have never hinged on this little guy being weak. Probably has some extra secret too like anti fire or whatever. concentrated flames perhaps idk.

Seriously what have you been reading to think that?
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@Merilirem You're going to look pretty stupid if next chapter it is revealed that the dragon is a Pint-Sized Powerhouse, ( https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PintsizedPowerhouse ) but sure, go ahead and accuse me of playing word games. ;)
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@GodGinrai Look, i said as much in my original comment. It not a perfect system but its generally bigger=stronger. Poison im not counting because it deals with a whole different set of physical characteristics such as poison resistance and immune systems etc. Its stuff that only matters when one is involved. I am talking about general stuff not specific stuff and poison falls into a different category. Just like how humans have brainpower as a strength but its completely different yet again.

You are not using the same context as me or terminology. I say again i am using ones closer to the dictionary definitions of these words. You are not. I am not disagreeing about the idea that you could consider things "stronger" than that which they kill for food. Thats not the strength being used in my comments however. All thats happening right now are word games.
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@Merilirem Aren't snakes a perfect example of something smaller than their prey that often use poison to overpower said prey? Are you going to imply that they are not "stronger" than their prey? Just like a gorilla, for example, has the physical strength provided by their muscles, a snake has the strength that is provided by the poison that is developed within their bodies. Saying that doesn't count and that just the poison is strong but not the creature who generates it is pretty myopic, IMO.
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@GodGinrai Thats because it was about assuming small things were weaker, which they generally are. Spiders are still weak and can be easily crushed. The poison is not enough to say they are strong. The poison itself can be considered strong but it just does not do enough for them to outmatch anything larger.

Basically within the context of assumptions of strength my point was simple. Your bringing up of poisons is simply not relevant. I was talking about physical strength but thats because there is no other strength that relevant to the conversation.
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@Merilirem Vasqueztion never stated he was talking about physical strength in the first place. Rather than me ignoring your point, I was implying that your point only addressed physical circumstances.
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I'm glad that they are still Scanlating this!?
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Oh you guys were still alive i though this series was dropped
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Thank You i Hope we See more chapters ?
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And now we have "cricket" gun gimmik.
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@GodGinrai Look, your just ignoring my point of missing it. Poison has nothing to do with the context being used. It was merely about how size loosely correlates to physical strength.

Your basically just arguing over the definition of strength at this point. The dictionary definition being applicable to what i was talking about, not everything you have been saying.
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So... In this world, the cuter the monster the stronger it is? that's why the MC has a slime?
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APCR'd lol

WoT players will relate
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@Merilirem Strength isn't just about durability. Something can be both weak and strong at the same time. If you play any video games, you should know the term "glass cannon". Strength can certainly be determined by how dangerous one is, because strength is a measure of power.
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@GodGinrai That has nothing to do with strength. Poison isn't ever considered the same way. Those small creatures are weak despite being dangerous.

Deadly/dangerous is not strength. At least its not what people think of when you say strength especially given this context.

I live in Australia, i know poisonous things are dangerous. I also know that redbacks are not actually that dangerous if dealt with appropriately. They are weak and fragile.
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@Merilirem You are apparently unaware of the concept of poison. A large number of the most deadly creatures in our world are smaller than a housecat.
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